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Interview with Thomas Daugherty, guitar player extraordinaire for The
Elms. (May 2002)
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1. Birthday/age: March 8, 1978. So I'm age 24 at the
moment. 2. Hometown: Joplin, MO. Neosho
specifically. 3. Musical influences:
The Beatles, The Byrds, The Turtles, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. 4.
What's currently in your CD player? I've
been listening to a band called The Lolas a lot lately. Thanks to them, my
penchant for Power Pop will be satisfied for awhile. And...I always have time
for a Beatles album. |
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5.
How did you get your start in
music? Around my 9th
birthday, our church started a program on Wednesday nights to teach the youth
of the church how to play instruments of their choosing, and I'd been dying to
learn how to play the guitar after seeing the movie "Crossroads." I picked it
up rather quickly, and that gave me a bit more leverage in going to my parents
and begging begging begging for them to buy me my first guitar. *laughs*
I Took lessons, played
along with all of my favorite records, joined and quit several bands in high
school, and eventually went on the road with Miss Angie to see what life on the
road was like. Being a hired gun wasn't so bad, but I always felt like the road
would be a little more tolerable if it was your music that you were playing
every night, so I knew that I would eventually end up in a band as a full-on
member, and not just as a hired gun. Fortunately, it worked out for me to join
The Elms about a year and a half ago, which is great, as Owen and I have been
great friends since the 4th grade, and had always hoped of playing music
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6.
Who are some artists you admire?
Paul Colman. He's managed by the same
company that we are, Alabaster Arts, and so I've had the privilege of getting
to know him recently. Anytime that man opens his mouth, pure goodness spills
out. *laughs* No really...Paul is a great man, and I hope his thing really
takes off soon, because I know he has a huge stock of great things to share
with the body of Christ. He always has a word of encouragement or scripture to
share with me that is pertinent to whatever I'm going through at the moment.
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7.
Best concert you've
seen I don't know that I've
really been to a show yet that totally blew me away on every front, but that
doesn't really answer your question though does it? A few months ago, Glen
Phillips, who used to sing lead and do much of the writing for Toad the Wet
Sprocket, played a show up in Indianapolis. Just him, an acoustic guitar, and
his songs. I gotta' say, I'm not much into the whole singer/songwriter acoustic
vibe, because I prefer the energy of rock 'n' roll, with its loud guitars, big
drums, and attitude to spare, but Glen was nothing short of captivating that
night. He's a great singer, a great guitar player, an amazing songwriter, and a
good storyteller. I've been a huge Toad fan since junior high, and Glen has
always been one of my top 5 favorite songwriters, so it was great to finally
get to see him in person, and even talk to him a bit after the show. I was so
relieved that he was actually a very nice guy too! Very personable.
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The Big
Surprise CD
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8.
Musician(s), alive or dead, you'd like to see
perform. If there were any way for
John and George to come back from the dead and reunite The Beatles for one last
go-around, that'd be nice. If there's
anything that I hate about being in The Elms, it's that I'll never be able to
see what we do from the audience's perspective. I know I'd absolutely love what
our band does live. I've seen videotapes, and that's fine I guess, but it'd be
so great if I could experience it while it was all happening.
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9.
What do you think of the current status of rock music
in the U.S.? For the most part, I
think it's all rubbish. Seems to me that music these days cannot stand up
without the help of flashy production, whereas in times past, it was all about
good songs, good performances, wit, charm, attitude, and vibe.
However, there seem to be some rumblings in
the mainstream of rock 'n' roll making a comeback, thanks to bands like The
Strokes, Jimmy Eat World, Pete Yorn, and The White Stripes. My fingers are
crossed. I don't know...there just seems to be something about what they do
that feels quite a bit more real than everything else that is out right now. I
really appreciate the blood, sweat, and tears of a band who guts it out for
years and years and years before finally realizing their moment. The work
ethic; I think it comes out in their music. It would be great to see Christian
bands take on that kind of approach as well. |
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10.
So I'm guessing that you don't find many Christian
bands doing that very thing?
Unfortunately, no. A lot of bands, be they
Christian or secular, are really looking for the instant gratification, so if
it doesn't take off for them immediately..well, then it's time for everyone to
go their separate ways and join other projects, or else it's time for them to
start pulling every heartstring, taking every easy road, to insure that it
happens for them next go-around. And man...I guess that's fine if that's how
they really want to do it. All I'm saying is that I would personally prefer to
see a new crop of Christian bands who refuse to take "no" for an answer. Bands
who have decided they are in this for the long haul, and are committed to
offering people something of quality time and time again, because they care
about God's reputation in the earth, and they know that what they do is one of
the many ways in which God is represented to the outside world. It's kind of
sad when you read issues of CCM, HM, or 7-Ball from about 5 years ago, and you
realize how very little of those bands back then are still around today making
music. I think there's something to be said for longevity.
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11. You played a couple new songs during GMA week in Nashville,
what kind of response have you gotten?
Everyone really seems to be raving to us about a
new song called "Speaking in Tongues," which is very reaffirming as we'd
collectively consider that to be our best work to date. They also seemed to
like "Burn and Shine" and "All the While Having Fun." I'd say that people
overall reacted very positive to the new stuff, which is a relief, as this new
album will be our sophomore effort. You know what people usually say about a
band's second record. *laughs* |
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12. Your band was nominated for 2
dove awards this year, was that a good experience?
If nothing else, it was
great to know that our peers within the industry had been taking note of what
we were doing. The awards show wasn't really all that fun for me, because I
just don't like having to sit in one place for 4 hours. *laughs* Our friends By
The Tree took home both awards in the categories we were nominated in, so I was
really excited for them, as they're some of my favorite people, and an example
of a band who is actually out there and working hard like we discussed
earlier. |
13.
What can you tell us about the new CD you are working
on? (where recording, producer, tentative title, release date, etc.)
Man...it's been a total blast.
We've been recording at a place in Nashville called Treasure Isle. Brent
Milligan, who produced The Big Surprise, is also producing this one, and
he's doing a fabulous job of really helping us cut the fat away from the songs,
maximizing the hooks. We've been very privileged to have David Bianco
engineering. Dave's worked with pretty much everybody whom we really admire
musically. He doesn't have much experience in the Christian industry though,
which is great, as he doesn't really know much about the whole "CCM Nashville
Sound," but he does know plenty about the dirt and the grit that is rock 'n'
roll, and gosh...the sounds he's been capturing to tape are nothing short of
stellar. I'm really really excited to hear how this whole thing turns out once
it's finished. At the moment, we kind of have our heart set on calling it,
"Truth, Soul, Rock 'n' Roll," which are the three most important things to our
band, in order of importance, and I think we're targeting a release date of
October. |
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How does the style compare to the past 2
CDs? I'd say the new stuff has a
lot more muscle to it. Dirtier, sweatier, more punchy, etc. It's still all
about the songs, great melodies, great lyrics, but we kind of let loose a bit
more instrumentally this time around. About 90% of the songs have guitar solos.
*laughs* Melodically, it's still very much in the vein of The Beatles, but the
sounds are quite a bit more American and rootsy. I still love The Big Surprise.
We're all still very proud of how it turned out, and are still excited about
getting up and playing those songs night after night, but we really have a mind
to go out there and blow it away with this new album. I guess that everyone
hopes that what they do will always be on the up-and-up, that you'll always be
progressing, maturing, etc. We did about 200 shows this past year, so we're
playing together as a band better than ever. You know? I think the best way to
put it would be to say that this album sounds like a BAND. It won't sound like
a solo artist surrounded by a bunch of slick session players. It sounds like 4
guys who just love playing music together. |
15. Any overall theme to the
album? It's definitely a call to
people everywhere to really start thinking about what they're doing, and
deciding then if they really think that they're doing all that they can.
If you're someone who doesn't believe in
Jesus, or have never decided to take that leap and follow him, then this album
means realizing that spirituality applies to everyone, especially yourself.
It's not something that is "good for some people, but might not necessarily be
good for you." Truth is truth, whether you like it or not, and you are subject
to it. You can't ignore it. It's time to face the music, as it were.
And on the other hand, if you're someone in
the church world, this album means examining your daily activities, and then
thinking about whether or not you're really doing all that you can to reach out
to the world, going outside the four walls of your church, outside the
comfortable feeling you get every Sunday morning, outside the Christianese
subculture that we've all kind of established for ourselves, and simply asking,
"Is what I'm doing really making all that much of a difference in the real
world? Is it down-to-earth enough to impact people who don't understand my
Christianese?" We ask ourselves that very thing all the time, just wanting to
make sure that we're doing all that we can as a band to really make a
difference in the lives of people who aren't accustomed to Christian culture.
For us, that's mostly translated so far into
just pursuing excellence in our craft. Hopefully being a good enough band to
garner the respect of people based on the merits of the music, which then gives
us an in-road to tell them about the truth that we found in Jesus. Obviously
not everyone who reads this is called to be a musician, but that's ok...because
no matter what you do, whether it's music, or journalism, or teaching, or
working in construction, or working at a restaurant, or being a good parent,
whatever...you have a responsibility to pursue excellence in that field,
because we should be doing all things as unto the Lord, and He deserves nothing
less than our excellence. I think that if the world were to notice Christian
peoples as being those who really pursued excellence, then they would begin to
understand the passion that we have for our Lord, and would be more inclined to
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Truth, Soul, Rock & Roll |
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What is your favorite song so far and why?
Definitely "Burn and Shine," simply because I'm a
huge fan of jangly guitar pop a la The Byrds. Stylistically, this song is right
up my alley. And the message of the song is also about everything we just
discussed. It's about how we want to live our lives "burning" and "shining"
with real passion, even if it means taking us outside of our comfort zones
and/or our immediate squares of influence, for the sake of impacting people who
really haven't given this thing a chance. |
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Anything else you want to talk
about? I'm sure there is, but at
the fear of being someone who talks too much, maybe I'd do best to just shut up
here and now. *laughs* Man...thanks a lot Greg. It's been fun hanging out with
you and all, and I hope we're able to make our way up to Wisconsin soon to see
you and meet some of the people there. I pray the Lord blesses everything
you're doing with The Jesus Underground, as well as anything you take on in the
future. |
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